Marriage
ban foes take differences to air
by Sherri
Richards The Forum, October 27, 2004
With one week until the
election, a debate between the chief opponent and chief proponent of a
constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage was tense.
Robert Uebel, chairman of
Equality North Dakota, and Christina Rondeau, executive director of the
North Dakota Family Alliance, faced off Tuesday morning on WDAY-AM's Hot
Talk.
Uebel told Rondeau her
arguments in favor of Measure No. 1 assert heterosexual relationships are
superior to homosexual relationships, which is discriminatory.
"Your organization and
all these other pro-family organizations, you really don't spend time
being pro-family," Uebel said. "You spend a lot of your time
being anti-gay."
Rondeau and Uebel didn't
speak to each other while waiting to go on the radio program. They avoided
eye contact during the commercial break.
But after the show, Uebel
demanded Rondeau explain questions on the Family Alliance's candidate
survey relating to gay rights, domestic partner benefits and the marriage
amendment.
She declined, requesting
they be posed in writing.
Uebel accused her of
running away from his questions.
On air, both raised their
commonly cited arguments and talking points, interrupting each other more
than once.
Rondeau said the amendment
is a proactive step to stop activist judges, referring to judicial actions
in Massachusetts that have allowed same-sex couples to marry in that
state.
"There's no doubt that
what is happening in other states could potentially have an impact on what
could take place in North Dakota," Rondeau said.
Uebel touted editorials
from The Forum, the Bismarck Tribune and the Grand Forks Herald, each
endorsing a "no" vote on the amendment.
He said people's rights
should not be up for a vote.
"The existing (state)
law is already discriminatory," Uebel said, referring to the Defense
of Marriage Act passed by the Legislature in 1997.
The amendment "is an
attempt to use the constitution to ensure that we can't ever have access
to these rights," he said.
Uebel said the amendment
cuts out the judicial system. Courts in other states have realized that
laws banning same-sex marriage are unconstitutional and the Family
Alliance has realized that, he said.
"What do they have to
do? They have to go change the constitution to make these laws
constitutional," Uebel said.
Rondeau said justices are
not meant to be lawmakers.
"If the people of
North Dakota and the United States truly want marriage to be radically
redefined ... they have the same rights that we have had to go through the
direct initiative process, to lobby the people, to get that amendment, to
get the law changed," she said.
Rondeau said homosexuals
have the same right to marry as everyone else, but choose not to marry
someone of the opposite sex.
She also said the amendment
would not prevent private businesses from offering health or employee
benefits to domestic partners.
"This issue is not
about discrimination," Rondeau said. "This issue is about giving
the voters of this state, and consequently this nation, the opportunity to
uphold one of the most fundamental institutions of any civilized
society."
Readers can reach Forum
reporter Sherri Richards at (701) 241-5525